Fresh off the release of Firefox 3.6.10 and 3.5.13, I was thinking about tools I could write to make releases smoother. I decided to make an update snippet viewer, as even catlee (of RelEng fame) said he would like such a tool. I would be able to stop bugging the RelEng folks for information about what snippets are live where, diff between them, look for builds that don’t get snippets offered, etc.
I decided to write it first as a web tool. I then changed my mind and decided on a command line tool in python. I thought about it yet some more and decided to make a graphical client with python and some sort of cross-platform widget toolkit. I then realized that this would be a great little project to learn the Mozilla platform and decided to base it on XUL and Gecko.
These are quick notes of my adventures.
First, I search for xulrunner on Google. I’m not sure if xulrunner is what I should be looking for, but I’ve read Planet Mozilla long enough that I figure it probably is. If not, it’s likely a good place to start.
The first link that comes up is https://developer.mozilla.org/en/XULRunner. That’s good, it’s on MDN. I read the text, which strikes me as pretty opaque for a newbie. I figure it’s ok as this is fairly technical stuff.
I click on the first tutorial. It talks about building or downloading xulrunner. I figure I’ll build as I already have all the Firefox trees checked out locally. I look at the build directions and OH MY GOD I am just going to install it.
So, I download and unzip the sdk. The sdk is a bunch of files (headers and such). WTF? I was promised an installer on the previous page! Whoops, it looks like I need the runtime, not the sdk. I download and install the runtime on my Mac via the installer easily. I (naively?) thought I was developing and would need the software development kit to, you know, develop. Hm.
Following along with https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Getting_started_with_XULRunner, it gives me instructions for Windows. Ummm, ok, is it the same for Mac? Do I use ini files or plists? I have a Linux VM I could use instead, why are there no Linux instructions either? I start looking elsewhere for more info.
The getting started page says most info comes from an awesome tutorial at http://web.archive.org/web/20080415114236/http://blogs.acceleration.net/ryan/archive/2005/05/06/1073.aspx. Whoops, the page content doesn’t load. Well, that’s embarrassing and not at all useful.
I go back to the main page and check out another tutorial link. That’s broken as well! I get the sinking feeling I have hit a deserted corner of the web and Mozilla platform. The dead link actually looks to be the same tutorial as above: http://blogs.acceleration.net/ryan/archive/2005/05/06/1073.aspx. A blog post from 2005? Yikes.
The next link in the main wiki page is http://zenit.senecac.on.ca/wiki/index.php/XULRunner_Guide. It looks promising. I go to download the PDF and….parked domain link page. I check the wiki to see if some spammer changed links. Nope, it just looks like someone let the domain expire and the PDF is gone.
So I contemplate stopping at this point but decide to power through with the Windows instructions. I start creating the necessary directory structure. It’s tedious so I scroll down to see how much I have to do. Ah, there’s sample code to download! That would have been helpful at the top.
So now that I have a project, how do I run this thing on Mac OS X? The wiki is no help. I manage to dig up http://simile.mit.edu/wiki/Crowbar from the list of applications that use xulrunner and notice they have a command to use. Great success! I run the command.
Hmmmm, there’s no “Myapp” in the Application directory to launch as Crowbar’s directions implied there would be. I sort the Applications directory by mod time see there’s a new “Finkle” subdirectory.
Ummm, what? Whatever, I roll with it. I double click the “Myapp” application in the Finkle directory. I get an application with no icon and no window that quits immediately:
"Could not find compatible GRE between version 1.8 and 1.9.0.*".
Ok…..time to look in the sample project. I crack open the ini to see if I can solve the issue. Ah, that’s where Finkle came from:
Lots of Mark Finkle stuff in there. Uhhh, I appreciate the work Mark, but I was expecting a more general “Hello World” project 😉
I read further down, O HAI!
MinVersion=1.8 ; ; This field is optional.Â It specifies the maximum Gecko version that this ; application requires.Â It should be specified if your application uses ; unfrozen interfaces.Â Specifying 1.8 matches all releases with a version ; prefixed by 1.8 (e.g., 1.8a4, 1.8b, 1.8.2). MaxVersion=1.9.0.*
I am versed enough in Gecko version numbers to know that these are old as dirtâ„¢. Others may not be as lucky, but I imagine they could figure it out by the error message. I know I am running 18.104.22.168 (which is the most recent, I just released .10 tonight and xulrunner builds come a bit later) so this is likely my problem. I yank out MaxVersion and re-run:
/Library/Frameworks/XUL.framework/xulrunner-bin --install-app myapp
I launch the app in /Applications/Finkle and get the same issue.
I have no clue how to fix the issue if it isn’t caused by those versions! I glance at the application’s timestamp and notice it’s 10 minutes in the past. WTF, I thought the command above writes the app? It worked the first time at least. I manually delete the Finkle directory and run the above command again.
That worked! Take THAT xulrunner indeed! Interestingly, the launch seemed to crash and then restart–there was a flicker of the window and icon shuffling in the dock. Well it works at least and I can’t reproduce the issue on subsequent launches.
Ok, where to next? I head back to the main xulrunner wiki page. The next 2 links don’t give any info. Uhhh, ok, I guess I’ll look at tips even though I am pretty sure I need more than tips at this point. The tips wiki page looks to have some good info (especially about branding) but I am not at the point in my app where I can use any of them.
I decide to poke around in the sample “Myapp”. Nothing really there, darn. Most files don’t even have helpful comments to guide me where to play around or add/extend. And then I come across main.js. Woahhhhhh, main.js looks super complicated for this hello world app! Oh, it looks like it’s from FF? Why is it in here? Mark, what’s going on here? 🙂
At this point I decide that I’m probably on to normal XUL now and should start looking for general platform documentation. I decide I am way too tired to work on this and put it away for later.